Subject	Improved is not necessarily optimized, I agree
Posted by	300zx90 (CO) on February 07, 2007 at 11:16 AM
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In Reply To	Re: I agree it affects the brake bias, but I disagree that i posted by kickerzx on February 07, 2007 at 11:00 AM
Message	A BBK that has been fully designed from a systems level for optimum braking is ideal, no argument there. If you have the funds for it and really need it, go for it. However changes can be made that, while not optimal, still offer improvements in performance over the stock setup. The kits we're talking about in this thread DO offer improvements and they ARE effective. This "less than optimal but better than stock" approach is utilized quite routinely, in fact I would consider it the norm and optimal as the exception. ________________________________________ NA to TT, starting from the ground up... Snow... the new anti-Z. TT.net tested and proven to remove even the most stubborn Z-related posts.
Follow Ups	Brake kit selection help - OrlandoTT 22:36:10 02/06/07 If your not taking your Z to the track - TTFairladyZ 22:47:32 02/06/07 Everything I have seen... - OrlandoTT 22:58:05 02/06/07 if your not hardcore racing and just want to fill out your - SpecNATT (Houston) 23:14:26 02/06/07 i like that kit (n/m) - nemo1080 23:16:29 02/06/07 Damn, thats a good deal (n/m) - rufflez 12:28:18 02/07/07 If you don't track, there's really no point... - BradZ (Go Gators!) 22:52:02 02/06/07 Thanks... - OrlandoTT 23:08:00 02/06/07 Just get some pads first... - BradZ (Go Gators!) 23:23:46 02/06/07 I run x-drilled rotors, SS lines and Hawk HP Plus pads >> - SlicktopTT 10:13:43 02/07/07 Second this - reid3000 23:08:42 02/06/07 Cross drilled rotors dont do anything but crack - twinturbopoweredz 23:23:56 02/06/07 Add a 300° BMC Brace (n/m) - BigTDogg (MA) 08:23:59 02/07/07 2nd, i installed it last week, huge difference in pedal - twinturbopoweredz 11:18:08 02/07/07 Yeah, I meant to mention that. Good bang/buck. (n/m) - BradZ (Go Gators!) 15:41:08 02/07/07 2nd. I have this same exact kit from Coz and it is perfect. - eriksu9 12:42:39 02/07/07 Ash's = Cobra rotors, Coz/Yugobernie/SPL = 350Z rotors - 300zx90 (CO) 23:12:44 02/06/07 The only thing i didnt quite like is the wasted pad - twinturbopoweredz 23:27:48 02/06/07 I'm looking @ tweaking the design of mine/SPL's brackets to - YugoBernie (NoVA) 00:17:11 02/07/07 Sounds like a good plan Bernie :) I would of gotten it - twinturbopoweredz 01:27:28 02/07/07 be very careful. so far, the lip on the outer edge of the - robo (sebring1970) 01:54:20 02/07/07 I dont have that worry, i got 14" 6 Pot AP's ;) - twinturbopoweredz 02:04:29 02/07/07 It's mostly a limitation of the caliper, not the bracket - 300zx90 (CO) 08:43:01 02/07/07 Thanks. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:05:25 02/07/07 Cobra rotors are fine and work well on my Z for the stret - The Devils Z 01:48:41 02/07/07 Just get the stoptech kit and be done with it. - maglito 00:24:28 02/07/07 way overkill for a street only application (n/m) - Guapo 00:35:46 02/07/07 not when you factor in "the look" - maglito 01:51:45 02/07/07 Then why are they on so many street cars that NEVER see the - Scotts94z32 09:37:11 02/07/07 350Z owners dont count ;) (n/m) - twinturbopoweredz 11:16:14 02/07/07 BMWs, Evos, Subis, Audis, as well as Z33s and G35s. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 12:15:06 02/07/07 like i said ... posers (n/m) - Guapo 12:20:12 02/07/07 posers :) (n/m) - Guapo 11:17:29 02/07/07 I'd have to disagree... I warped my brembo OEM - Chase86(WV) 10:02:08 02/07/07 user error (n/m) - Guapo 11:17:53 02/07/07 A few comments - YugoBernie (NoVA) 00:25:04 02/07/07 what about specialty's brake set up - mobetta002 00:40:55 02/07/07 I've no direct experience w. it, however it's basic selling - YugoBernie (NoVA) 00:46:37 02/07/07 Well, not just that. I spoke to Greg Dupree extensively - MixManMash 11:52:52 02/07/07 Re: what about specialty's brake set up - swedishwlf 01:00:38 02/07/07 When will this be ready? - OrlandoTT 06:11:52 02/07/07 Prob. not for a few weeks at the ealiest. I need to do some - YugoBernie (NoVA) 08:17:39 02/07/07 Have you thought of a rear kit? - OrlandoTT 13:39:50 02/07/07 It's not cost effective due to the design of the ebrake. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 16:34:19 02/07/07 Let me know when you have the new kit ready... - OrlandoTT 20:06:19 02/07/07 did you look into the new SpecialtyZ/Baer kit? - bobZtwin (NC) 07:02:27 02/07/07 go with Bernie's setup, you won't regret it - ZEngineer 07:50:30 02/07/07 2nd - Ballistic 08:41:30 02/07/07 I wouldn't touch a "BBK" that just relocated the calipers. - Jehannum 08:53:32 02/07/07 your statements are way off - ZEngineer 09:39:14 02/07/07 Re: your statements are way off - Jehannum 10:41:28 02/07/07 of course they agree with you, they want to SELL their kits! (n/m) - ZEngineer 10:44:05 02/07/07 Doesn't mean there's nothing to the paper, read it (n/m) - Jehannum 10:47:19 02/07/07 I've read it, it's interesting and accurate - ZEngineer 10:54:30 02/07/07 No you don't, no it doesn't, and yes it should be. (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 09:46:45 02/07/07 Yes, you do, yes, it does, and no, it shouldn't be. (n/m) - Jehannum 10:42:14 02/07/07 False, false, and false (now say uncle) (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 14:12:45 02/07/07 Re: I wouldn't touch a "BBK" that just relocated the caliper - kickerzx 09:46:57 02/07/07 ABS still works perfectly, he was guessing and he is wrong. (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 09:48:39 02/07/07 however.. screwing with more "leverage" with - kickerzx 09:53:11 02/07/07 allowing the front brakes to do more work is a good thing - ZEngineer 09:56:26 02/07/07 Re: allowing the front brakes to do more work is a good thin - kickerzx 10:11:34 02/07/07 Not sure if you have ever ridden a motorcycle but braking - SlicktopTT 10:22:12 02/07/07 Re: Not sure if you have ever ridden a motorcycle but brakin - kickerzx 10:36:21 02/07/07 Now you are guessing and you are wrong. (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 10:36:48 02/07/07 Re: Now you are guessing and you are wrong. - kickerzx 10:46:24 02/07/07 I agree it affects the brake bias, but I disagree that it's - 300zx90 (CO) 10:51:45 02/07/07 Re: I agree it affects the brake bias, but I disagree that i - kickerzx 11:00:26 02/07/07 Improved is not necessarily optimized, I agree - 300zx90 (CO) 11:16:57 02/07/07 I have a different pad compound front and rear to compensate (n/m) - Barry'z (NJ) 21:49:09 02/07/07 Re: Re: I wouldn't touch a "BBK" that just relocated the cal - Jehannum 10:45:25 02/07/07 You're overthinking it, and real life disagrees with you. (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 10:46:49 02/07/07 I'm not overthinking it, and real life agrees with me. - Jehannum 10:48:05 02/07/07 LOL, I couldn't have said it better! (n/m) - 300zx90 (CO) 10:53:41 02/07/07 Re: Re: Re: I wouldn't touch a "BBK" that just relocated the - kickerzx 10:53:00 02/07/07 The simple fact is, it still works. Clearly the ABS - 300zx90 (CO) 11:09:09 02/07/07 Re: The simple fact is, it still works. Clearly the ABS - kickerzx 11:12:57 02/07/07 BTW. here is a good article about how stoptech.. - kickerzx 11:09:59 02/07/07 Re: BTW. here is a good article about how stoptech.. - kickerzx 11:18:00 02/07/07 GOD i love it when im right. - kickerzx 11:47:24 02/07/07 actually Jehannum. it seems that you were - kickerzx 12:33:01 02/07/07 Re: actually Jehannum. it seems that you were - kickerzx 12:36:42 02/07/07 Hey, anything to justify that Brembo BBK on my Z... (n/m) - Jehannum 13:21:51 02/07/07
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